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Return to The BaDlands #4 - The Value of Next Gen Consoles


On 02/04/2014 at 09:33 AM by gigantor21

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Linked to Article Series: Blog a Day (BaD) 2014

As the dust settles on the launch of the new consoles, the overall value of the new consoles has been a frequent topic of discussion. Here's my take:

The PS4 - Sony's new box has completely reversed the value argument that hovered over it's predecessor like a black cloud.

The PS3 was not worth buying in the first couple of years. Not only was it FAR more expensive than the 360 and Wii, but the price was driven up by stuff that took several years to bear fruit, if at all. Blu-ray support became a non-issue as Netflix and Hulu rose to prominence. Hardware BC with PS2 games and Linux support were nice, but did little to spur sales. It took years for developers to get used to the Cell, and it's ballyhooed numbers advantage turned out to be minimal in practice.

Their new box turns things around in every way. It's price-performance ratio easily bests both the Xone (weaker and more expensive) and WiiU (weaker and cheaper, but still too pricey). It fully embraces streaming from the off, with Ustream and Twitch support from day 1. The system is not only the most powerful, but it's PC-like design means developers can take advantage of that power more easily. And we've been seeing that from day one, with several games running better framerates or higher resolutions.

For me, the PS4 offers the best long term value proposition of all three consoles. I'm not deeply attached to the first-party exclusives on any of the 3 platforms, so having the most solid performance in third-party games is important to me. I would absolutely pay $400 for it with the right games, but I bet we'll see price-cuts or same-price bundles by the time it gets Guilty Gear Xrd and The Order.

Xbox One - Microsoft had to dig itself out of a VERY deep hole to get back into contention. Once they dropped the all-digital DRM future and turned off Kinect, the Xone's marketability skyrocketed. Their solid performance during the holidays reflected the success of the turnaround. Sure, they sold less than the PS4, but there's no way they'd have sold 3 million units over Christmas with their old policies. Getting rid of them was the right choice.

Unfortunately, there are still serious problems with the Xone's value proposition for people who aren't Halo or Gears addicts. The weak price-performance balance compared to the PS4 has been well documented; at $500 with weaker specs, Microsoft's heavy reliance on third party titles becomes a negative, as the worse performance in game after game makes the rounds online. Plus they are adamant that the Kinect is vital to the experience, meaning they have an option to cut the price immediately that they don't want to take.

However, it's too early for them to take that step. Unlike the WiiU, people are still buying it at full price, and there are plenty of upcoming games that could move units. It's not like the PS3, where there was little to justify the expense. MS should hold off on any big price drops until later in this year, if not longer; if the current situation doesn't change or gets worse, though, then they have to seriously consider it.

As for me? Apart from Killer Instinct, I'm not super interested in MS's existing IP. New exclusives like Quantum Break and Sunset Overdrive are still unknown quantities. They'll have to be absolutely stellar to convince me to pay full price for it; otherwise, I'll wait until I can get one for less than the PS4 before I even consider it.

The WiiU - Of the three consoles, the WiiU is struggling the most with proving it's value.

Being much weaker than the other 2 consoles, the WiiU is not only competing with the PS4 and Xone, but current gen boxes as well. The internals work differently from the other two as well (PowerPC for Nintendo vs X86 for Sony and MS), making it more complicated to work with. Both current and last gen consoles have far better prospects for third party support. Thus while Nintendo's games have been great, their struggles with HD development have led to long droughts. There wasn't much worth buying on the WiiU between launch and Pikmin 3's arrival, and that pattern looks to repeat itself in the first half of this year.

With all that, and continued brand confusion that Nintendo itself ackowledged, the WiiU being the cheapest console hasn't done much for them. The issue isn't just the price, but long term prospects; for people who aren't deeply invested in Nintendo IP, paying more for consoles that will have robust third party support seems like a better trade. The Gamepad could've been a major "X factor" that combatted this, but Nintendo has been doing jack shit with it. No one needed it to enjoy 3D World outside of small sections with Toad, I know Smash won't need it, Mario Kart 8 only uses it as a horn, and it's completely turned off in the new Donkey Kong game.

The Wiimote was a solid selling point for the Wii that was easy to understand and intuitive to use. Nintendo has done little to prove the Gamepad's worth, which is vital considering it's more complicated than a typical controller. They've sworn to double down and prove that the pad is worth buying, but even if they do pull it off it may be too little too late.

I myself don't see the WiiU as anything more than a secondary console for Nintendo games. Thus I wouldn't feel comfortable spending anymore than $200 on it.

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Do you have any of the current gen consoles? Does it feel like you got your money's worth? If you don't have one, what would compel you to get it? Let me know in the comments.


 

Comments

Matt Snee Staff Writer

02/04/2014 at 09:36 AM

the PS4 is definitely a better buy than the PS3 was when it came out.  I'm planning on getting one in April, I think.  ONe of the things that really does it for me is the remote Vita play, that really excites me, especially for games like FFXIV.  I like playing on handhelds better than consoles, and that would be nice for me.

gigantor21

02/05/2014 at 06:51 PM

I'm on a wait-and-see mode with Remote Play myself. I want to see how it performs in more games. It would definitely be awesome to be able to play PS4 games on the Vita without having to switch inputs on my monitor, though.

Nick DiMola Director

02/04/2014 at 10:35 AM

I've only got a Wii U and I've been very happy with it. There's still very little on the horizon for the X1 and the PS4 that I'm interested in, so I don't see myself grabbing either for the time being.

The big sells for the Wii U for me was the GamePad for Off-TV Play and, of course, Nintendo properties. I think they've produced a number of killer titles already and hopefully the injection of third parties working on first party IPs will really make for a bunch of other titles filling in the release gaps.

gigantor21

02/05/2014 at 06:53 PM

With Smash, MK8, Donkey Kong and X out, the WiiU will be a much more attractive purchase by the end of the year. It'll be much harder to resist picking one up for me, LOL. :p

Alex-C25

02/04/2014 at 11:25 AM

The Wii U is pretty much my option to buy when it comes to next-gen consoles, and not just because of being a Nintendo fanboy. The games i'm interested the most have been released and i'm not really interested in the Xbone, even if I love Halo and while I do like the Playstation, I kinda don't feel the need or the energy to get a PS4, coupled with the lack of interest.

gigantor21

02/05/2014 at 06:56 PM

The line-up for the Xone and PS4 will be pretty thin through most of the year. You have a bunch of big games in March (Metal Gear, Infamous, TitanFall), and then the well runs quite dry until fall. Can't blame you for being iffy on their software offerings.

mothman

02/04/2014 at 02:09 PM

If I had cash on hand it would be a Wii U for me too. There is no burning reason for me to get a PS4 yet and the One won't be coming into my house period. 

gigantor21

02/05/2014 at 06:58 PM

Which WiiU games in particular would you want the system for? Just curious.

mothman

02/06/2014 at 08:16 AM

The new Mario, Pikmin 3. Windwaker HD, Wonderful 101, Zombie U and The 2D Mario games for a start. 

Oh and I never played Earthbound either so that as well.

jgusw

02/04/2014 at 03:29 PM

I don't own any of the current consoles.  I don't have much interest in them.  There are few games I know I'll want to play, but I'm happy just sitting out for now until prices drop.

gigantor21

02/05/2014 at 06:57 PM

I mysef see little reason to buy any of these consoles before E3, when we'll have a better sense of how the rest of the year will shake out for all three consoles. Plus I'm broke, LOL.

KnightDriver

02/04/2014 at 03:51 PM

Any day now I'll be getting a Wii-U. If there's no price drop before E3, I'm getting one anyway. After that I'm excited for the PS4. Not sure if I'll get one this year though. Maybe around next holiday if I have the money. X1 still hasn't announced a must have game for me. I know they will eventually though.

gigantor21

02/05/2014 at 07:00 PM

It's amazing how much the cost of ownership for these consoles has gone up in just a decade or so. Back in the early '00s, you could've bought multiple consoles for the price of one Xbox One. Now it's a serious investment over time, both because of the higher price tag and the rise of paid online subscriptions andf the like. It's made the decision much more weighty.

Cary Woodham

02/04/2014 at 07:25 PM

I'm happy with my Wii U and 3DS right now because they have games I want to play on them.  That's all I really want.  Maybe in a year or two, the PS4 and Xbox One will have enough games I want to play on them, too.

gigantor21

02/05/2014 at 07:02 PM

Regardless of what the company's say about media functionality and the like, people are buying these consoles for games first and foremost. They are WAY too expensive to be treated primarily as media boxes and will stay that way for the next several years.

Super Step Contributing Writer

02/04/2014 at 09:39 PM

I'd like a PS4, but am saving for a class in L.A. in May. May buy one anyway, though. It depends. 

And now I know never to survey this website if I want a generalizable sample, cause the fact about everyone here wants or has a WiiU of all the choices definitely makes them outliers. lol

gigantor21

02/05/2014 at 07:03 PM

LMAO yeah, I was surprised by that too. XD

Super Step Contributing Writer

02/06/2014 at 12:23 AM

Granted, there could be something interesting here regarding active bloggers vs. non-active bloggers when it comes to gaming taste, for sure. 

Ranger1

02/06/2014 at 05:23 PM

I don't see myself getting any of the new consoles any time soon. I don't have the money to spare on a new console, especially when I have so many unplayedunfinished games from previous consoles. if i do get one down the road (after price drops), it will probably be the PS4. There isn't much on the XBox One that has interested me, I'm on the fence over the Wii U, and I'm really intrigued by The Order. And part of me hasn't given up hope on The Last Guardian, so yeah, PS4 will probably enter my home at some point. Just not in the next year or two.

NSonic79

02/17/2014 at 04:38 PM

You pretty much summed up my thoughts on the current consoles this go around. Each of their own learning something from their prior systems yet at the same time shooting themselves in the foot with others. The Order is the only game that'll get me to buy a PS4 at the moment while a major Halo game would make me consider an Xbox One.

Even during my birthday I held off in getting a WiiU. $200 sounds like the sweet spot for me to invest.

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