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Watchmen vs Watchmen


On 08/31/2014 at 10:18 AM by daftman

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When I read Watchmen I thought that it would be difficult to turn it into a movie. There are so many characters and so much backstory. When the movie did come out, I remember there was a very polarized response to it, both among critics and fans. Now that I've read the book and seen the movie, I'm rather divided myself.

Warning, dear reader! There is no way to talk about this without completely spoiling it. If you plan to read the book or watch the movie (or both!), then please stop reading this now. Go find out what the fuss is about firsthand and then come back. I'll still be here.

It didn't start out very well, in my opinion. Before even popping in the disc, I noticed the back of the box refer to the characters several times as "superheroes," something the book rarely, if ever, does. They're usually called "masked adventurers," even by themselves. Other than Dr. Manhattan, of course, these are just normal people. They don't have any special powers. But after watching the opening fight between the Comedian and...his assailant, you would assume super strength at least. They smash through walls and marble counters and Ozymandias picks up the Comedian one-handed without the slightest effort before hurling him out the window. I know he's buff but the Comedian is a big guy. Everyone else seems just as strong though. Many a character goes flying across a room from a single punch or kick. But it shouldn't be like that. This isn't the Matrix. It might seem a small thing but I think it hurts the believability of the story.

And that's a shame because the casting, by and large, is very good. The actor playing Dan Dreiberg nailed the part: nerdy, middle-aged, and socially awkward. Rorschach is also spot on, as is the Comedian. I wish Dr. Manhattan's voice had been deeper or more confident or manly or something. Laurie Jupiter I could take or leave. Adrian Veidt (Ozymandias) seemed a little too cold, almost a jerk. One of the reasons the ending of the book is effective is because Veidt is a sympathetic character.

Watchmen comic

Watchmen movie

The ending bothered me too. The effect of the ending is the same as the book (everyone putting aside their differences because of the threat of a common enemy) but it gets there in a very different way. I can understand why they changed it. By getting rid of Veidt's creature, they were also able to cut the whole subplot of the missing artists, which cut down on the time of an already long movie (not to mention special effects $$) but I think it's a weaker story for the change.

I was also surprised how much they embraced the R rating. I do think a straight telling of the story would probably get an R but it's also a fact that PG-13 movies tend to make much more money. While there is plenty of swearing in the book, I don't remember if anybody ever dropped the f-bomb. It's common parlance in the movie. The one thing the book isn't shy about is blood (that would need toning down a little for PG-13, I think) but the movie really takes it a step further and seemed almost needlessly violent. You see lots of bones getting broken, sometimes with the bones coming out of the skin, and plenty of graphic gunshot wounds. When the assassin came for Veidt, why did he start shooting up the entire room? And then the sex scene between Laurie and Dreiberg kind of dragged on. It was what, two or maybe three panels in the book? All that stuff is fine if that's how they wanted to make the movie (and I guess it was) but it didn't seem to help the movie at all and just shrunk the potential audience. If I'm reading IMDB right, looks like it lost money overall.

Now I know I've been pretty hard on the movie but that's just because the book is so very good and I enjoyed reading it. Watchmen is a great story with great characters and that largely carries over to the movie. Some of the changes are understandable, if not preferable (e.g., the ending), while others are more bizarre (e.g., Rorschach splitting the head of the child murder open instead of setting fire to the building; the book's version fits the character better). The filmmakers are obviously big fans of the property as anyone who's read the book will quickly see. There are lots of little references to the world, like the Gunga Diner and being able to spot Rorschach out of costume in different scenes. I just wish they had kept things a little more faithful.

Getting to see Rorschach's mask in motion though, well, that might just have made the whole movie worthwhile.


 

Comments

Matt Snee Staff Writer

08/31/2014 at 10:24 AM

I have mixed feelings about it too. I think it's only good because the comic is soo good.  Rorsasch and Dan were quite good though.  So was Mom Jupiter.  

daftman

08/31/2014 at 04:16 PM

The filmmakers' hearts were in the right place, I think. They just, I dunno, tried to "movie-ize" it too much or something.

GeminiMan78

08/31/2014 at 10:57 AM

I totally agree that the casting was spot on. And I have the same complaints. Alan Moore has never shyed away from graphic sex in his books, but it is usually one or two panels. And when the goons are trying to break into Rorschach's cell and he hand cuffs the guy to the door and they cut his arms off was stupid. I forgot what they did in the book, but that was shameless over kill in my opinion. As for them being super powered, I felt that even in the book these folks are above average in a fist fight. Its not so much that they are super strong as they are very skilled and naturals at fighting. But the movie did seem to exagerate their abilities. And I feel they could have still made the alien invasion ending work with out diving too deep into the subplot. They tried to modernize the ending and to me that steals from the atmospere of the story. This is supposed to be a cold war era alternate universe early 80's setting which fit perfect with the original ending. But that said as for a film adaption of a comic I thought they did a pretty damn good job compared to a lot of others like say all of the X-men flicks, complete butchery.

daftman

08/31/2014 at 04:24 PM

Yeah, the characters are just very skilled at hand-to-hand combat. It's what they do. I don't think this is a bad movie, just one that could have been better. The ending of the book is just so good, surely they could've made it work somehow.

And for the record, I think the first two X-Men movies are pretty good. That third one, though, that was awful.

GeminiMan78

08/31/2014 at 05:58 PM

I have just never been happy with the casting in those films and it felt like they played down their abilities a bunch. And getting major character archetypes mixed up like Wolverine and Storm in the third movie. I had high hopes for the First Class movies but for me their only draw is Jennifer Lawrence.lol I 'm just an old school X-Men fan who wants to see the characters get a proper treatment like Marvel has done with their line up. Think of what Marvel could do with the X-Men if they could get the rights back. Money Mouth lol

xDarthKiLLx

08/31/2014 at 12:01 PM

I've never read the actual graphic novel but I've seen the movie...and I have the complete Motion Comic on DVD.  I'll give it a look later today.

daftman

08/31/2014 at 04:25 PM

You should! There are some big differences.

mothman

08/31/2014 at 12:59 PM

I've read the graphic novel and watched both the movie and the motion comic. I enjoyed them all.

xDarthKiLLx

08/31/2014 at 02:29 PM

is the motion comic faithful to the graphic novel?  I'd like to avoid buying the graphic novel if possible

daftman

08/31/2014 at 04:31 PM

I avoided buying either by getting them from the library Wink

mothman

08/31/2014 at 05:23 PM

The motion comic is basically the graphic novel on disk so yeah.

Super Step Contributing Writer

08/31/2014 at 07:51 PM

All your missing with the motion comic is the white pages between sections of the comic book, otherwise it's just an animated version of the comic book. I actually saw the motion comic, then read the comic, then saw the movie in theaters and enjoyed them all like mothman did.

Having said that, I've always wanted to watch the movie's Director's cut to see the scenes they cut from the theatrical release. 

My main complaint with the movie is the gratuitous CGI blood. Gratuitous food condiments that look like blood would have been better. 

V4Viewtiful

08/31/2014 at 01:58 PM

The thing is it's not a bad movie and it's one of the more faithful adaptations yet with many good moments your left not as satisfied as you where with the comic.

Yeah I heard this very common opinion that the characters seemed superpowered certain things where over exaggerated like jumping too high or hitting through walls (Dr. Manhattan is the only known superpowered hero if I remember correctly).

I agree with GeminiMan78 , certain things where too modernized when originally (like the intro) Watchmen was meant as a kind of "Time Piece"

Rorschach is awesome, though Laughing

daftman

08/31/2014 at 04:35 PM

Yeah, it's not a bad movie but there's so much potential that it's sad when it doesn't live up to it. And is Rorschach is the best! I'm glad the line made it into the movie where he says to the other prison inmates, "None of you understands. I'm not locked up in here you. You're all locked in here with me!" So good.

leeradical42

08/31/2014 at 06:04 PM

I saw the movie which was ok but wasnt there a game called WatchMan  and if so was it good I never played it but if its in line with the movie it could be good.

daftman

09/01/2014 at 05:54 AM

There was a downloadable title that coincided with the movie called Watchmen: The End Is Nigh. I don't know much about it. I think it was basically a beat-'em-up and kind of average at that. But I don't really know.

mothman

09/02/2014 at 01:15 PM

That game is a POS. A real disappointment

daftman

09/03/2014 at 08:04 AM

We have a definitive answer! And from Mothman too. How fitting Wink

KnightDriver

09/01/2014 at 11:41 PM

Loved the movie. Will probably read the graphic novel very soon. Sorry again about this weekend. I'm an ass, and a little depressed. 

daftman

09/03/2014 at 07:55 AM

Don't get depressed. That's what Silent Hill wants! Yell We'll just hit it this weekend for sure...right? Wink

KnightDriver

09/03/2014 at 03:02 PM

Absolutely! My doc did some blood letting. Now I'm ok.

daftman

09/03/2014 at 03:59 PM

O_O

KnightDriver

09/04/2014 at 03:00 AM

Old school, I know, but it works. I swear.

NSonic79

09/02/2014 at 01:07 PM

Fine. I'll get around to watching the movie and seeing if my local library has the comic around. I don't think I'll buy them.

daftman

09/03/2014 at 07:57 AM

As a card-carrying cheapskate, I wouldn't buy them either! It's such a famous property that I'd be shocked if your library didn't have it.

Blake Turner Staff Writer

09/03/2014 at 12:39 AM

Eh, I still love the movie. When it came out, there wasn't much else like it. Sure the comic shits all over it but it's still a decent film in its own right.

daftman

09/03/2014 at 07:58 AM

Oh yeah, it's not a bad movie. This is merely a complaint about something good that could have been better.

BrokenH

09/04/2014 at 04:21 AM

It's a difficult graphic novel to live up to. I admit I liked the movie a lot,probably because in the back of my head I know how bad it might have turned out instead. lol.

daftman

09/04/2014 at 07:17 PM

Oh my word, that was amazing! Yeah, I guess the movie could have been worse lol

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