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The Games of the Atari Flashback Classics vol. 3: Part 2: 5200 Games


On 03/17/2019 at 05:56 AM by Cary Woodham

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Most of the previous Atari collections out there had just arcade games and 2600 games.  So it’s kind of a big deal that this one includes 5200 games as well.  I was especially excited when I found out about this, because technically, the 5200 was my first gaming console.  So let’s take a look at the 5200 games on this collection!

But yeah, the 5200 was my first gaming console.  I had played the 2600 plenty of times at friends and neighbors’ houses, but I never owned one until many, many years later.  When I was a kid, my first home gaming system was actually an Apple ][+.  I didn’t dare ask my parents for an Atari 2600 because I knew how expensive they were, and I figured I should be happy with just our Apple.  And I really was, as I was playing near arcade perfect games on it, while 2600 owners were complaining about their crappy ports of Pac-Man and such.  But a few years later, I got a 5200 for Christmas and it was a total surprise, as I didn’t even ask for one.  I have a feeling now that my mom got it on sale during the video game crash, but back then I didn’t care.  I was just happy to have a home gaming console.  Speaking of the crash, when I was a kid, I didn’t really notice there was a crash.  I just noticed that for a while, there were fewer arcades than there used to be, and I could game games cheaper.  One time we went to the store after I got my 5200 and there were so many games on sale that my 5200 library more than doubled right then!  I know a lot of people say the 5200 was an awful console, and I’m sure it was.  But at the time, I was very happy to have one.  In fact, having the 5200 delayed me getting a NES by about a year, because I was perfectly happy playing games like Pengo on my 5200.  But anyway, here are the 5200 games on the Atari vol. 3 collection.

Asteroids

You know, even though the 5200 version of Asteroids looks and plays more like the arcade version, I think I liked the 2600 version better.  Sure it wasn’t as accurate, but it was more colorful.  The 5200 version’s graphics are all blue, I guess to simulate the monochrome look of the arcade game.  But the 2600 asteroids were all different colors, so it was like you were shooting at giant Trix cereal.  And it was just as fun.

Centipede

The 2600 version of Centipede was pretty good for what it was, but the 5200 version is even better as the graphics really look closer to the arcade version and it’s just as smooth.

Countermeasure

If Atari Combat had better graphics and was made into a single player game, this would be it.  It has a scrolling map, which they liked to brag about in the instruction booklet.  You drive a tank through jungle areas shooting turrets and collecting green spool looking things.  It kind of reminds me of when you drive the tank in Ikari Warriors.

Final Legacy

I think one of the reasons why we haven’t seen to many collections of 5200 games is because of the difficulties of translating the games’ controls to modern consoles.  The 5200 had a pretty weird controller.  Also, in many of these games, you had to read the instructions to really know how to play the game, as games back then didn’t have in-game tutorial modes and such.  This collection has scanned copies of the instruction booklets you can read, which is nice.  But the problem is that many of the instructions are not written very well.  I wish they could’ve added an extra instruction page on how the controls translate to the PS4 controller.  So if I don’t describe some of these games very well, now you know why.  In Final Legacy you view a map and can switch to modes where you can shoot down airplanes or fire torpedoes from a boat.  And that’s as far as I got before becoming disinterested.

Micro-Gammon

It’s just Backgammon, a game I never learned how to play.  Looks like a more confusing version of Chess to me.

Millipede

I don’t understand how the 5200 version of Centipede can play so smoothly, while the 5200 version of the sequel can be so choppy!  Yuck!

Miniature Golf

Oh man this game looks horrible.  The graphics are just two colors: purple and pink, and it looks like everything was made with ASCII characters.  Surely the 5200 was capable of more than this.

Missile Command

This was another 2600 game that I felt was pretty good for what it was.  The 5200 version improves upon it with graphics that more closely resemble the arcade game.  But both versions are just as fun.

RealSports Baseball

I guess the 5200 line of Atari sports games used a “RealSports” label, huh?  Anyway, while it looks like a typical early 8-bit baseball game, the voice work on it is pretty impressive for the time.  I couldn’t bat worth a flip, though.  Just like in real baseball I guess.

RealSports Basketball

Nothing much to say about this one-on-one basketball title, although it plays better than most of the other games.

RealSports Football

Eh, I’ve seen better early 8-bit football games than this.

RealSports Soccer

I don’t really have much to say about this one, mainly because I couldn’t figure out how to kick the ball at the beginning of the game!

RealSports Tennis

I’m not a big fan of video game tennis, as most of them play like glorified Pong to me.  But this one played fairly well for what it was, and looked nice, too.

Star Raiders

This is a first person space shooter game and I think it was also on the 2600.  It’s all right, but it didn’t keep my interest for long.  It didn’t help that the instruction booklet was more interested in exposition and story instead of actually explaining how to play.

Super Breakout

Aside from looking more like the arcade game, this was really wasn’t any better than the 2600 version.  I think I like the 2600 version more.  It’s also impossible to play without a paddle controller, too.

Xari Arena

This is another one of those games that you really have to read the instructions to know what’s going on.  It’s like a cross between air hockey and Breakout.  There’s a lot of things moving around on the screen, and it’s very colorful, so it’s a good demonstration on how much more powerful the 5200 was over the 2600.  I think if I could figure out how to play it better, I’d enjoy it much more.

And those are all the 5200 games!  I know that by my descriptions, it may make the 5200 sound really awful.  But I really had a good time with mine back in the day.  But then, the games I had were not Atari made for the most part, but they were from third parties.  The games I remember that I enjoyed back then were ones like Pac-Man, Dig Dug, Joust, Pengo, River Raid, and Q*bert.  Those were pretty good from what I recall.  Anyway, for the last part we’ll look at the rest of the games on vol. 3, which are from the 2600.  –Cary


 

Comments

Matt Snee Staff Writer

03/17/2019 at 09:27 PM

I really like Asteroids and Missile Command. I've played them in arcades, on Ataris, and on computers and phones. I remember when I was living in Minnesota in 1996, Windows 95 came with a version of Missile Command that me and my older brother would compete in. Fun stuff. 

Cary Woodham

03/18/2019 at 05:16 AM

Missile Command is one of my dad's favorite classic arcade games, along with Centipede and Ridge Racer.

KnightDriver

03/17/2019 at 11:13 PM

I've always heard that the controllers were the worst part of the 5200. I never had one but for a while, during my collecting days, I wanted a 7800. 

Xari Arena is actually pretty cool once you figure out how to play it. I had to read the booklet, and even then I didn't get it for a while. Then suddenly it all clicked for me. 

Final Legacy seemed to have good potential but I never could figure out how to play it right. It made me think of a more advanced version of Sea Battle for Intellivision; only, I couldn't figure out how to move around on the map. 

Cary Woodham

03/18/2019 at 05:17 AM

I want a 7800, or a collection of 7800 games on a disc.  One of the 7800 games is Food Fight.  Love that one.

KnightDriver

03/19/2019 at 10:57 PM

I think it's the best Atari to have. Isn't it backwards compatible with everything that came before it?

Cary Woodham

03/20/2019 at 08:41 AM

I believe the 7800 is backwards compatible with the 2600, but not the 5200.  Otherwise I would've gotten a 7800 as a kid, I think.

SanAndreas

03/18/2019 at 12:29 AM

I have the comprehensive all-in-one collection on Switch. I didn't have a 5200. What I had was a 130XE, which was a computer that used the same hardware as the 5200, only with far more RAM. It was like what the 5200 would have been if it had been well-designed. So I've actually played a couple of these games.

Final Legacy was all right, I played a few completed games of it back in the day.

I spent a lot of time with the 8-bit version of Millipede. I kinda want to track down the NES version sometime. Centipede and Millipede are my favorite games that Atari actually made, and I still play them a fair bit.

I had the 8-bit version of Star Raiders. I actually beat the game on the hardest level one time. It was a lot easier to play with a full keyboard. The 2600 version was just weird and I never could figure it out. I got my first-person space dogfighting fix on the 2600 with Activision's StarMaster. Fun fact: Star Raiders is older than either Pac-Man or Mario. Or Activision for that matter. It first came out in 1979.

Never was really big into Asteroids.

And still no Solaris, which was probably the best 2600 game ever except maybe Yars' Revenge.

I agree with you on one thing: The best 5200/8 bit Atari games were licensed arcade games. The Atari 8-bit was, IMO, the second best gaming machine of the 80s after the NES. The 5200 version of Donkey Kong was better than Nintendo's official NES version did, partly because it had the Cement Factory level and music that sounded more like the arcade. I guess that's a moot point now since you can get the actual arcade Donkey Kong on Switch as an Arcade Archives game. I also really enjoyed Pengo. I thought the 8-bit version of Dig-Dug was pretty bad, though.

Cary Woodham

03/18/2019 at 05:20 AM

Yeah the Switch version is a good one to get since it has all of vols. 1 to 3.  I just got it on the PS4 since I had the others on it as well.

I had the NES version of Millepede.  It was one of the few NES games I could get my dad to play.  Did you know that Satoru Iwata made the NES Millepede game when he was at HAL?

Dig Dug on the 5200 was better than the 2600 version at least!  I loved Pengo.  That was my favorite 5200 game.  I played that one so much back then!

KnightDriver

03/19/2019 at 11:00 PM

Geeze, if I get a Switch, I'm going to go crazy with Arcade Archives. 

Cary Woodham

03/20/2019 at 08:42 AM

I probably would go crazy with the Arcade Archives, too, but they do add up moneywise, and you only get one game, so I haven't done that yet.  But if they ever released a collection, hoo boy!

SanAndreas

03/22/2019 at 05:28 PM

I'd like to see Nintendo release an arcade collection, but the only collection I can really remember Nintendo releasing is Super Mario All-Stars, so that ain't gonna happen. And it won't have Popeye either. I don't know how the licensing to Popeye works, but I do know the IP is going to be public domain at some point in the near future.

Cary Woodham

03/23/2019 at 04:10 PM

Yeah Nintendo doesn't do collections a lot.  They should, though.  There's Metroid Prime Trilogy, that Zelda collection you could get when you preordered...um, Wind Waker I think?  In Japan they had a puzzle game collection on the GBA. I'd love to see an arcade collection, too, but I wouldn't be too upset if it didn't have Popeye on it.  

SanAndreas

03/30/2019 at 06:00 PM

Especially now that they've seemingly resolved whatever dispute they had with Ikegami, and have Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr on Switch, they should do it. I want to play Vs. Balloon Fight.

Since Iwata worked on the NES version of Millipede, I wonder if he worked on the NES version of Joust as well? That was made by HAL. And the first game he made was Balloon Fight, which is basically a Nintendo knockoff of Joust.

Cary Woodham

03/31/2019 at 09:43 AM

I'm pretty sure Iwata did all the classic arcade games that HAL released on NES, since he used those games to convince Nintendo to let HAL work for them.  So yeah, he did Millipede, Joust, and Defender 2.  I still like Joust better than Balloon Fight, though.  Sorry Iwata.

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