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On 10/16/2014 at 12:58 PM by Ranger1

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In one way, work taking up so much of my life this summer was a good thing. I managed to remain out of the loop on the whole Gamergate thing until I wandered back to Pixlbit, and even here I managed to avoid most of it, as well. And then my Facebook feed lit up yesterday with the cancellation of Anita Sarkeesian's talk at USU and an article from The Atlantic. That article really hit home, and I'll discuss that further down.

I have mixed feelings about Anita – while I find her methods questionable, her research flawed, and her approach ingenuous, she is also shining a light on an issue that does exist, whether we want to acknowledge it or not. As for the whole Zoe Quinn thing, the original issue seems to have been started by a pissed-off boyfriend who felt the need to air dirty laundry in public, and said public then jumping on various bandwagons while shouting “Rabble! Rabble!” South Park-style. I honestly don't care about the events that precipitated it or the principals in the matter. What I do care about is the actions of the internet rabble.

And before people get their panties in a twist, this blog entry isn't about whether women are objectified in games, it's about internet culture and cyber-bullying, and, to some extent, geek culture. Anything I write about is purely my opinion, frequently colored by events that have happened to me personally. I'm not a feminist, I'm a humanist. All people deserve to be treated with respect regardless of gender, race, sexual orientation, etc. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, and vice-versa.

Being a girl who was into comics, science fiction, and games wasn't always easy in the early and mid-80s. It wasn't particularly difficult, either, as long as you had a thick skin and a bunch of guy friends to back you up. Book stores weren't an issue, but comic book stores could get a little weird. The staring, the silence when I walked though the door, the lack of people meeting my eyes, yeah, that all happened. I'd go in, find what I was looking for, make my purchase, and skedaddle if I was alone. Not that I was in any danger, but because I was made to feel uncomfortable and unwelcome in the club house. One guy said to me once “The Archie comics are over there”, implying that I couldn't possibly be in there for anything else. I was usually looking for back issues of Daredevil comics, the occasional X-men comic, and anything Doc Savage-related. Not an Archie comic in my household once I was old enough to pick out my own comics, thank you very much!

I sometimes run into the same issues in game stores. Usually not the mom-and-pop independents, but the EBs and Game Stops. There was one EB at the mall where the sales guys never met my eyes once and were downright hostile to me whenever I was in there. The Game Stops usually amuse me more than anything else, I've been asked more than once if I was sure that my boyfriend would like the game I was buying, or offered accessories in pink. I despise the color pink, by the way.

None of the real life stuff has ever been as creepy and down-right frightening as something I experienced a few years ago on the internet, though. There was an escalating fued between two bloggers on 1up and I called out the mods to do something about it. I named no names, laid the blame equally on both parties, and was actually more pissed at the mods than anything else. One of the feuding bloggers than took it upon himself to make my life as miserable as he could. He got banned from 1up, but would make new accounts at different IP addresses and spam my blogs with his hate-filled vitriol. I was the star in one of his YouTube videos, and he stalked me across multiple websites. It got to the point that I just stopped doing anything social online for several months, because I just never knew when or where this guy would strike next. Eventually, he either got bored or found another target, but those months were pretty horrible. So I thoroughly sympathize with Anita, Zoe, and any other woman who has had to deal with this kind of harassment (and much, much worse; bad as it was for me, I never felt it was to the point where I felt my life to be in danger).

Some of you know about the events I'm talking about, and I'd like to ask you to please refrain from outing the guy in public. As far as I know, he's behaving himself these days, and this isn't a witch hunt or a bid for sympathy. I just need people to understand that these are very real issues facing many, many women and not just the ones who make the headlines, or are even involved in the games industry.

I'll be moderating the comments in this blog entry – while I don't mind discussion, it needs to remain civil. Just know that I may not get drawn in to any discussions this may provoke. I've said my piece and now I'm done with it.


 

Comments

Casey Curran Staff Writer

10/16/2014 at 01:20 PM

The thing that really pissed me off about this is how they didn't do anything to protect her once the threat came out. That the threat exists is bad enough, but they were allowing people to come to that thing armed. Sorry, but you have to take threats like that seriously. And whether the guy was serious or not, he won. And both she and GG lost. 

Matt Snee Staff Writer

10/16/2014 at 01:48 PM

um, miss, the Archie comics are over THERE.  Tongue Out

I have a gamer girl friend on facebook who is an Anita backer.  And while I don't agree with her, I can sympathize.  

C.S.3590SquadLeader

10/16/2014 at 02:37 PM

I don't agree with a lot of what Anita presents in her videos, but no one deserves death threats or harassment.

xDarthKiLLx

10/16/2014 at 02:40 PM

I remember all the 1Up stuff you're referring to.  Thank god it all calmed down!

ThatKidOverThere

10/16/2014 at 03:03 PM

The Zoey Q thing was blown wayyyy out of proportion. People were saying it was the end of games journalism as a whole, but I doubt that the average Joe gamer would know or care about who she even is. 

jgusw

10/16/2014 at 03:43 PM

We have been friends for a while, agree with most things, and more than likely, even agree on this.  So with that said, I don't want to upset anyone, but provide a point of view that is slightly different on this subject and at the same time pro women and men.  God knows trying to be sincere and sensitive in a comment over the interest is a feat in and of itself. Cool

The problem I have with Sarkeesain and "women having a hard time on the internet" (not talking about your personal story btw), is that there's a hint of "Women being bully by men" instead of "People (female & male) being bully by f-ing ass clowns".  That artcile starts off with, "The Unsafety Net: How Social Media Turned Against Women".  The problem with the title alone is that it leads assumuptions that women are only victims to men and that men aren't victimized in similar ways just as much.  It's very misleading.  IMO, parts of the LONG article and many articles like it come across as "Men are the problem and they should grow up and stop being bastards online to women" and I believe the problem is jackasses that use anonymity over the internet to bully and harass good people.  Now, I can't deny that women are bullied differently than men.  They are bullied differently because they're not men.  If someone wants to insult you and all they know is that you're a woman, they are going to use that in their bullying.  That doesn't make that person a misogynist.  Another problem I had with the article is that it ignores the fact that women bully women more often than men bully women and that women that bully men are almost completely ignored by most (even if it happens in public).  [The women that hit men out in the open and people cheer for the women annoys me to no end.]  Other than that, over half the article seem to have more of an issue with social network policies (facebook and twitter) and why aren't they doing more to get rid of unfavorable comments, pages, and communities on their site.  Against women, of course. 

The whole bullying, not misogyny, over the internet is terrible and it saddens me that so many men are involved.  We loose focus when gender is unresponsiblely applied to this issue.  There is an issue, but it's hyped up with hand picked uncommon examples against women.  Or should I say, against men. 

Check out, Christina Hoff Sommers videos, Factual Feminist, on youtube.  I linked it for you.  Her team does actual research and fact checking.  There are actual crimes against women for being women and there are real places in the world that women are 2nd and even 3rd class people, but the whole "Women are victimized on the internet" is nothing in comparision.  I argue if women victimization over the internet is as bad as they say (except for a few websites we'll never come across unless we search for them) and we're just caught in some political bullshit.  

KnightDriver

10/16/2014 at 04:14 PM

Threats online should be policed as seriously as they are in the real world. Social chaos will be the result if they are allowed to continue.

Super Step Contributing Writer

10/16/2014 at 04:44 PM

Yeah, the whole USU thing is insane and scary, as are death threats. So stupid.

SanAndreas

10/16/2014 at 05:47 PM

It's a Twitter shit-throwing contest, nothing more. You're better off for having avoided it. It's mostly been people airing their dirty laundry in public with a healthy dollop of "But-but-but Mommy she's doing it TOO!" And all this is over a bunch of goddamn video games!

I apologize if my language is offensive, but this is how I feel.

asrealasitgets

10/16/2014 at 07:45 PM

GG isn't real. Initially it was supposed to be some kind of internet movement where gamers stood up to corrupt games journalism or something. Then Zoe happened--  it appeared to be a smoking gun (devs in bed with the media Surprised). Some slut shaming began and most games journos have been attacking GG, and every gamer as mysoginsts ever since. From the GG point of view, journos have been shielding themselves with feminism/SJW as a way to draw attention to their sites and articles neglecting to address corruption issues. Thus, Bayonetta2 gets a low score because tits. 

I'm sorry you were bullied on the internet. The experience sounded horrible. I don't know the details, but from what I see everyone else go through, I can use my imagination.

I don't know. I really like Bayonetta2 and although her design is super ridiculous, I find it to be more comical than anything. I would hate for people to think of me as mysoginst creepo for finding Bayonetta2 fun or funny more appropriately.  

Cary Woodham

10/16/2014 at 09:12 PM

I haven't even looked at any of the GamerGate stuff at all.  i don't even know what it's about, really.  I kind of feel bad about not being in the know, considering I'm a semi-professional game reviewer and all.  But I really don't have the time.  I'm too busy playing and reviewing holiday rush games like Skylanders Trap Team and Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures 2, and having fun with other games like Smash Bros. and Hyrule Warriors.  I just play and review games to have fun, I'm just that simple.

VisuaLIES

10/17/2014 at 01:14 AM

I only know about GG from a few stories that I read, (the more I learn the more it depresses me, and oh god, the comment sections...) but I know it's a more complex issue than is often reported.  I read a mainstream news article that painted all GamerGate supporters as awkward single guys who feel threatened by female gamers and journalists, and that the only way they know how to react to the ever-increasing inclusiveness of the gaming community is through harrassment and threats of violence against these women.  And that may be true for some GamerGaters, but I'd guess they are a very small minority--they are the ones getting all the attention.  Stories like that really kind of piss me off because they're so superficial.  Do some f-ing digging!  Yes, obviously the people who are threatening Sarkeesian, Wu, etc., need to be talked about because what they are doing is very serious and flatout wrong, but to paint all GG supporters in the same light is ridiculous.  I actually agree with some of the complaints GGers have brought to the table.  I do think sites like Kotaku and Polygon, which I frequent, have become increasingly hostile toward people who don't see things the same way as their editors/writers, especially when it comes to the topic of the way female characters are portrayed in games and comics.  This is where I feel directly affected, because as and artist and a fan of comic, anime, and pin-up art, I've always like to draw idealized characters and appreciate other highly skilled artists who do the same.  The last thing I want is for someone to be uncomfortable looking at my art (unless the point of the work is to make people feel uncomfortable lol), and I've never really had any problems in that regard that I know of, but so often now I see people bashing an artist or game character because the character is a sexy female, and anyone who doesn't join in or thinks differently must not know how to treat women with dignity or respect, which is ridiculous.  I agree that women do need better representation in games and comics--I was looking at a Previews catalog of upcoming comics, and even I was a little embarrassed by all the T&A.  I don't know how discussions about these topics turn into death/rape threats, but I'd be worried about myself if I actually could make the connection.

avidacridjam

10/17/2014 at 08:55 AM

Good blog entry. I agree with you 100%.

I've read that USU is a publicly-funded university which is probably why security measures weren't beefed up alongside state gun laws. Had this conference happened at a privately-funded university, it would be different. But the university and the state sided with an anonymous, cowardly asshole and its nothing but baffling.

Agree or don't agree with Sarkeesian's video series, there's a right and a wrong way to engage with her (or anyone) regarding the discussion she was hoping to inspire. I was on the side of finding some of her videos underwhelming and so I ignored her. You don't always have to engage with someone who's opinion is different than yours. Just move on with your life. You don't need to "put her in her place".

There's no guarantee that her videos would've changed public opinion in any way if certain people were more civil in their behavior. The death/rape threats and barrage of insults did nothing but make her more visible. Telling her to shut up only made her more vocal (as well as her supporters); by the way, telling anyone to shut up on the internet is pointless. Trying to stop the progress of her argument only ensured that it continues. It's nothing but a prolonged smear campaign with no endgame. Pure toxic trash that should've died and wrapped up months ago.

Ceva

10/18/2014 at 03:23 AM

Great blog.  I'm sorry to hear about the harassment you've faced.  That really sucks.  My best friend is a woman (and a geek), and I've seen her go through a lot of the same things.  While I would like to say that things are getting better in public spaces, I feel things are still pretty awful online.  Playing Halo 3 online with her turned me off from online gaming with strangers.  I think that the only thing that would end online harassment is if we could get rid of anonymity on the internet and harassers had to answer for the harmful things that they say (or write), but I have no idea how to possibly go about doing that.  Thanks for sharing your story.  

goaztecs

10/21/2014 at 11:44 AM

I'm in the camp of seeing bits and pieces of what's going on, and really trying to stay away from it. From what I have seen it started with a guy trying to get back at an ex and bringing their private life public and then it snowballed. The one thing I don't care for is when people try and bully other's because they have a different views, and do it through social media. Yeah its easy to talk s**t behind a laptop but what is the purpose? I've encountered similar folks on 1Up and thankfully none of that has happened here. 

NSonic79

10/26/2014 at 03:58 AM

At least you have a say. I don't even bother despite the ramifications of what's going on. I usually just check on all of this for a laugh. I'm just curious if this'll force gamers back a few pegs in modern culture where it's thought of like it was back in the beginning.

Coolsetzer

10/27/2014 at 10:45 AM

I've been away from the video games scene for a few months, and just recently found out about all the gamergate stuff on kotaku. It's really a pathetic topic, so I really won't say much. Everybody should be entitled to their opinion, but to threaten others and reveal their personal information just goes too far.

I didn't know that you had bad experiences at public stores. I'm sorry. It's not like that in Indiana. From what I can tell, it's totally chill in the midwest. There have been a number of female gamestop employees who I have chatted with.

Chris Iozzi Staff Alumnus

11/18/2014 at 12:48 PM
Thank you for posting this. I was curious what your view was. I wish this whole thing could just go away. I'm with you on Anita, she is addressing some VERY important subjects, but she doesn't quite pull it off properly in some instances. Complaining Ms. Pac-Man has a bow, long lashes, and a beauty mark? Come on.
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